| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us 00:32 - Apr 11 with 10027 views | AlexGreen |
Frightening really when we think what they're both worth now, probably a difference of 15 million.
I really wish we had some form of European scouting network - just one gem like him would pay for it for the next hundred years |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 01:12 - Apr 11 with 5349 views | catch74 |
We’ve done pretty well with the likes of Mings, Garner & Waghorn, sort of Webster + should also really, in hindsight with McGoldrick. The money we spent on Jackson seems utterly ridiculous for a club seemingly priding itself on good deals. |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 06:56 - Apr 11 with 5256 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 01:12 - Apr 11 by catch74 |
We’ve done pretty well with the likes of Mings, Garner & Waghorn, sort of Webster + should also really, in hindsight with McGoldrick. The money we spent on Jackson seems utterly ridiculous for a club seemingly priding itself on good deals. |
I’d suggest that was more down to the manager than the club getting good deals - of the big ticket McCarthy signings (eg. Decent fee paid or high wage freebies) probably only Stewart and Douglas were complete failures. Huws and Adeyemi could probably be added to that list albeit injury-related rather than ability - and may yet come good
Either side of McCarthy our transfer activity has been well, rubbish |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 07:10 - Apr 11 with 5215 views | BloomBlue |
But Brentford closed their youth team, mainly because the best young players left for ManC, Chelsea etc for nothing and they got fed-up with that. By stopping the youth system it saved them £3m a year which they invested in the scouting network. But their club policy hasn't changed get in cheap and sell for millions.
Maybe it's time for Town to shutdown the youth teams? |  | | |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 07:19 - Apr 11 with 5187 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
Indeed. Brentford sign a striker akin to a championship Suarez.
We sign a striker more akin to Glenda Jackson. |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 07:19 - Apr 11 with 5177 views | mrshallisfit |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 01:12 - Apr 11 by catch74 |
We’ve done pretty well with the likes of Mings, Garner & Waghorn, sort of Webster + should also really, in hindsight with McGoldrick. The money we spent on Jackson seems utterly ridiculous for a club seemingly priding itself on good deals. |
We did well because of one man in this respect. MM |  | | |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 07:34 - Apr 11 with 5123 views | Ftnfwest |
Not in wages but point taken |  | | |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:13 - Apr 11 with 5053 views | Herbivore |
In fairness it's much harder to shine as a striker in a side that creates so few chances. Maupay has the luxury of missing plenty but still getting on the scoresheet. |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:15 - Apr 11 with 5044 views | Mullet |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 06:56 - Apr 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I’d suggest that was more down to the manager than the club getting good deals - of the big ticket McCarthy signings (eg. Decent fee paid or high wage freebies) probably only Stewart and Douglas were complete failures. Huws and Adeyemi could probably be added to that list albeit injury-related rather than ability - and may yet come good
Either side of McCarthy our transfer activity has been well, rubbish |
Douglas was released by Brentford and came here as a squad player. Which perhaps says it all. |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:17 - Apr 11 with 5035 views | Kieran_Knows |
Jackson couldn’t finish his dinner. |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:34 - Apr 11 with 4993 views | itfcjoe |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 07:19 - Apr 11 by mrshallisfit |
We did well because of one man in this respect. MM |
Yep, Mick and his team including Dave Bowman were both very good spotters of talent and well respected in the game and players wanted to play for them.
Hoping Lambert can be the same, because that is our only hope of recruiting good players |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:49 - Apr 11 with 4936 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:15 - Apr 11 by Mullet |
Douglas was released by Brentford and came here as a squad player. Which perhaps says it all. |
He was a bad signing - would have been on a decent wage and undoubtedly signed to be semi-regular at least in the midfield
But he was one of very few truly bad signings, fortunately | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:53 - Apr 11 with 4920 views | Mullet |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:49 - Apr 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
He was a bad signing - would have been on a decent wage and undoubtedly signed to be semi-regular at least in the midfield
But he was one of very few truly bad signings, fortunately |
He wasn't a top player here, so I'm not sure it's fair to lump him with Stewart. He was a bad singing because he played way more games and minutes than intended because we were so threadbare.
He also had his confidence knocked by the constant abuse as Chambers told us about, which was pretty embarrassing all told.
It was unfortunate his legs seemed to go a lot earlier than you'd hope, but part of the wider crisis for form and fitness at the time. | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 09:05 - Apr 11 with 4885 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:53 - Apr 11 by Mullet |
He wasn't a top player here, so I'm not sure it's fair to lump him with Stewart. He was a bad singing because he played way more games and minutes than intended because we were so threadbare.
He also had his confidence knocked by the constant abuse as Chambers told us about, which was pretty embarrassing all told.
It was unfortunate his legs seemed to go a lot earlier than you'd hope, but part of the wider crisis for form and fitness at the time. |
Not sure what you mean by wasn’t a top player here - looking back at the 2015/16 season when he signed he started 4 of the first 5 league games (haven’t looked any further) so pretty obvious he was signed to be a starter in the team
The fact that we were forced to continue playing him when it was obvious he was past it doesn’t make him any less of a bad signing | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 09:17 - Apr 11 with 4842 views | Radlett_blue |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:13 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
In fairness it's much harder to shine as a striker in a side that creates so few chances. Maupay has the luxury of missing plenty but still getting on the scoresheet. |
The issue was glaringly obvious last night. Quaner was isolated as lone striker & who was supposed to get up there to help him? While Judge is a good player, I don't think he has the pace to play that role. The formation was a flawed 4-5-1 & it would have made sense to have gone 4-4-2 at half time, but I guess Lambert went for damage limitation & letting our young midfield gain experience rather than chase a lost cause. |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:00 - Apr 11 with 4736 views | strikalite |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:13 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
In fairness it's much harder to shine as a striker in a side that creates so few chances. Maupay has the luxury of missing plenty but still getting on the scoresheet. |
Agree, consider how many chances for example Abraham of Villa misses(can think of a few glaring ones too!)yet still has 23 goals this season, it's all about creating, when we have so few goals coming from different areas of the pitch the result also of that is not creating enough for a striker, whether that's Jackson or Maupay who would also be isolated here! |  | | |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:03 - Apr 11 with 4718 views | ParisBlue |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 08:49 - Apr 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
He was a bad signing - would have been on a decent wage and undoubtedly signed to be semi-regular at least in the midfield
But he was one of very few truly bad signings, fortunately |
In the summer of 2015, having just reached the play-offs, we signed permanent deals for:
Josh Yorwerth
Brett Pitman
Jonas Knudsen (straight replacement for Mings)
Giles Coke
Larsen Toure
Jonathan Douglas
James Alabi
Piotr Malarczyk
Tommy Oar
The start of where it all went wrong for MM |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:08 - Apr 11 with 4697 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:03 - Apr 11 by ParisBlue |
In the summer of 2015, having just reached the play-offs, we signed permanent deals for:
Josh Yorwerth
Brett Pitman
Jonas Knudsen (straight replacement for Mings)
Giles Coke
Larsen Toure
Jonathan Douglas
James Alabi
Piotr Malarczyk
Tommy Oar
The start of where it all went wrong for MM |
Most of those were squad filler and replaced players of a similar ilk but of the 3 big signings only Knudsen really worked. Pitman wasn’t a bad signing but at the same time didn’t set the world alight, and Douglas was a disaster as stated above
That said, I think we would have retained our playoff place that season had another notable signing (Fraser) not been injured against QPR - we lost 3 in a row including that game and our playoff push was completely derailed as a result | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:10 - Apr 11 with 4686 views | itfcjoe |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:08 - Apr 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Most of those were squad filler and replaced players of a similar ilk but of the 3 big signings only Knudsen really worked. Pitman wasn’t a bad signing but at the same time didn’t set the world alight, and Douglas was a disaster as stated above
That said, I think we would have retained our playoff place that season had another notable signing (Fraser) not been injured against QPR - we lost 3 in a row including that game and our playoff push was completely derailed as a result |
Fraser only played 15 games, even if we got another 15 out of him it would have made a huge difference | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:15 - Apr 11 with 4663 views | bournemouthblue |
Maupay must be on higher wages though you would think
He certainly looks like the obviously player to sign if you are pushing for the playoffs and have a spare £10 - £15 million knocking about |  |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:17 - Apr 11 with 4647 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 06:56 - Apr 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I’d suggest that was more down to the manager than the club getting good deals - of the big ticket McCarthy signings (eg. Decent fee paid or high wage freebies) probably only Stewart and Douglas were complete failures. Huws and Adeyemi could probably be added to that list albeit injury-related rather than ability - and may yet come good
Either side of McCarthy our transfer activity has been well, rubbish |
Couldn't you argue a case for Bowman being the real talent spotter of actually highlighting these players for Mick? |  | | |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:18 - Apr 11 with 4645 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:10 - Apr 11 by itfcjoe |
Fraser only played 15 games, even if we got another 15 out of him it would have made a huge difference |
Never realised it was that few - I’d wager that our results in the games he played were significantly better than when he didn’t | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:18 - Apr 11 with 4641 views | bournemouthblue |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 07:10 - Apr 11 by BloomBlue |
But Brentford closed their youth team, mainly because the best young players left for ManC, Chelsea etc for nothing and they got fed-up with that. By stopping the youth system it saved them £3m a year which they invested in the scouting network. But their club policy hasn't changed get in cheap and sell for millions.
Maybe it's time for Town to shutdown the youth teams? |
Okay I didn't see the end bit, I retract that thumb
The lower-middle sized London and North West based clubs are in a slightly different position to us in the fact they can hoover up a lot of the youth players not quite cutting it in other systems locally. We aren't in a position to do that. | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:20 - Apr 11 with 4637 views | itfcjoe |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:17 - Apr 11 by Johnny_Boy |
Couldn't you argue a case for Bowman being the real talent spotter of actually highlighting these players for Mick? |
They are a team though, and Mick is the boss and takes the responsibility. | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:24 - Apr 11 with 4609 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:20 - Apr 11 by itfcjoe |
They are a team though, and Mick is the boss and takes the responsibility. |
Do you know if we're planning on keeping Bowman this summer? Or will he be joining up with Mick permanently? | |
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| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:27 - Apr 11 with 4594 views | itfcjoe |
| Maupay cost Brentford the same as Jackson cost us on 10:24 - Apr 11 by Kieran_Knows |
Do you know if we're planning on keeping Bowman this summer? Or will he be joining up with Mick permanently? |
Ireland job isn't a permanent job.
No idea re him staying, I'd be surprised if he did - think Steve Bruce wanted to take him to Sheff Weds but not sure if that is now dead.
Guess it is up to Lambert | |
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