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Team for Stoke / Reasoning 07:26 - Dec 4 with 2567 viewsCurrie10

Gerken - Self explanatory. Bart needs to come out of the firing line, and Gerken is always good for a few games - before inexplicably having errors in him 6/7 games down the line. Happens EVERY TIME.
Spence - I don't think Donacien will play another minute for us. We're trying our best to make sure this deal doesn't become permanent.
Chambers + Pennington - sadly the best we have at CB
Knudsen - likewise, the best we have at LB
Skuse - best sitter
Bishop - providing fit, will add a bit of drive to CM
Downes - better than Chalobah interms of keeping the ball, offer a shield to back 4 freeing up Bish
Sears LM - we have one partnership working well. Knudsen + Sears
Lankaster RM - Better positional sense than Edwards who quite literally is a passenger from a defensive perspective
Roberts - Makes the ball stick uptop more than Jackson. IF Harrison is fit enough, perhaps time for Harrison to have a go as the CF.

Thoughts?
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 07:48 - Dec 4 with 2503 viewsgordon

Reason in? He left ages ago mate.
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 07:52 - Dec 4 with 2492 viewsTheTrueBlue1878

Gerken
Donacien / Chambers / Pennington / Knudsen
Downes / Skuse / Bishop
Edwards / Harrison / Sears

Subs: Bart, Lankester, Chalobah, Jackson, Spence, Dozzell, Ward

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 07:53 - Dec 4 with 2491 viewsTheTrueBlue1878

That whole Donacien theory seems a bit far fetched, don’t think ITFC will have any influence on the UK governments desicion

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 07:56 - Dec 4 with 2481 viewsgordon

Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 07:53 - Dec 4 by TheTrueBlue1878

That whole Donacien theory seems a bit far fetched, don’t think ITFC will have any influence on the UK governments desicion


Bit extreme to be trying to get one of your own players deported
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 08:40 - Dec 4 with 2400 viewschristiand

Sadly, you're right with many of your reasons Currie. I have to say, I would start Donacien at right back. He's not the most effective attacking wise, but seems to defend better than Spence. Also, if Harrison is fit enough for 60 minutes, I'd start him too. The Town squad is what is at the moment and Lambert is having to turn a pig's ear into a silk purse. I'm sure PL will want to prove a few people wrong at Stoke, but he couldn't have handpicked such a weak squad to prove that point!!! Even with all the tinkering, it will result in another comfortable home win ala Forest last Saturday.
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:11 - Dec 4 with 2326 viewsArnieM

Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 07:52 - Dec 4 by TheTrueBlue1878

Gerken
Donacien / Chambers / Pennington / Knudsen
Downes / Skuse / Bishop
Edwards / Harrison / Sears

Subs: Bart, Lankester, Chalobah, Jackson, Spence, Dozzell, Ward


Like this with the exception of Edwards ( been found out? Can’t be arsed to track back )
I’d swap Lankester bank in for him. Lankester is by and large ready and has earned to keep his place based on his last game.

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:24 - Dec 4 with 2293 viewsJammyDodgerrr

I agree with the lineup, if not the reasoning.

I don't think that we're trying to stop Donacien from joining at all. Lambert thinks he is a centre half, and right now Chambers and Pennington are the best two centre halfs without a doubt. Therefore he is having to wait. That's all there is to it.

Bishop should play definitely, as should bringing Downes back in. He will have benefited from the rest.

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:34 - Dec 4 with 2270 viewsCurrie10

Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 07:53 - Dec 4 by TheTrueBlue1878

That whole Donacien theory seems a bit far fetched, don’t think ITFC will have any influence on the UK governments desicion


Well he hasn't played a single minute for ages.

Surely if he's to be given a permit, he needs to have played a %%% of games to qualify for one.

Currently - he's not doing that.

I'm convinced this is a factor behind him not playing a minute of late.
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:47 - Dec 4 with 2243 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:34 - Dec 4 by Currie10

Well he hasn't played a single minute for ages.

Surely if he's to be given a permit, he needs to have played a %%% of games to qualify for one.

Currently - he's not doing that.

I'm convinced this is a factor behind him not playing a minute of late.


He is still getting paid and has a job. That'll be more than enough i imagine.

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:56 - Dec 4 with 2227 viewsDarth_Koont

I'd go with that too.

Bart v Gerken is a 50/50, but perhaps Lambert needs to think further down the line about what he'll need for the rest of the season. I think we need a confident and in-form Bart this season so however we get there is fine by me.

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:58 - Dec 4 with 2220 viewsSamWhiteUK

I'd play Donacien because Spence is absolute dog shyte
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:59 - Dec 4 with 2218 viewsrickw

I hold out hope Lambert will consider Donacien at RB so I won't give up on that!

Also I start Dozzell instead of Bishop, for 2 reasons - Bishop just had his first start in about a year, let not rush injuring him again and if Dozzell isn't getting game time here he'll be off!

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 10:00 - Dec 4 with 2217 viewsPhilTWTD

Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:34 - Dec 4 by Currie10

Well he hasn't played a single minute for ages.

Surely if he's to be given a permit, he needs to have played a %%% of games to qualify for one.

Currently - he's not doing that.

I'm convinced this is a factor behind him not playing a minute of late.


It's not a work permit he's waiting for it's permanent leave to remain, it'll have nothing to do with whether he's playing. They've also been advised that it will be granted without a problem. And I'd be very surprised if there was any way out of the deal agreed with Accrington.
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 10:00 - Dec 4 with 2215 viewsCurrie10

Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:58 - Dec 4 by SamWhiteUK

I'd play Donacien because Spence is absolute dog shyte


Likewise I would but I don't think he'll play due to the above.
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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 11:03 - Dec 4 with 2119 viewsGarv

Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 09:59 - Dec 4 by rickw

I hold out hope Lambert will consider Donacien at RB so I won't give up on that!

Also I start Dozzell instead of Bishop, for 2 reasons - Bishop just had his first start in about a year, let not rush injuring him again and if Dozzell isn't getting game time here he'll be off!


I'm surprised Lambert hasn't been lambasted for not playing Dozzell so far. Gone under the radar that one.

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Team for Stoke / Reasoning on 11:14 - Dec 4 with 2085 viewsGarv

Basically, Donacien, Bishop/Dozzell, and Lankester should all play.

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