| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. 22:57 - Jul 22 with 13997 views | Swailsey |
For people to emerge calling out Mick.
It's going to be a long season. |  |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:02 - Jul 22 with 6816 views | Kieran_Knows |
Didn't expect anything less to be fair. |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:06 - Jul 22 with 6799 views | pointofblue |
If we go one down during a limp performance against Birmingham the atmosphere at Portman Road will be toxic. |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:07 - Jul 22 with 6790 views | Reuser_is_God |
On the flip side it's only taken one pre season friendly for everyone to be positive again. |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:11 - Jul 22 with 6765 views | Kieran_Knows |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:07 - Jul 22 by Reuser_is_God |
On the flip side it's only taken one pre season friendly for everyone to be positive again. |
Football fans in being thickle, shocker. | |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:14 - Jul 22 with 6757 views | Ftnfwest |
Wherever these people are they're clearly being unfair. We'd just gone about ten weeks unbeaten |  | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:15 - Jul 22 with 6752 views | StNeotsBlue |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:11 - Jul 22 by Kieran_Knows |
Football fans in being thickle, shocker. |
Up vote if you're being ironic.
If not made me chuckle. |  | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 23:15 - Jul 22 with 6748 views | Bluefish |
It is all about results
Not but results but about style of football
Performances
Playing youngsters
Etc
Etc
Pick and choose whatever fits. Mick out etc. |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 00:01 - Jul 23 with 6687 views | ITFC_Forever |
Shows how disillusioned fans were last season.
That hasn't been forgotten, and confidence from the fans is very fragile as a result.
We're at a decent striker, left-sided CB and maybe a winger shirt at the moment and I have zero confidence that we'll sign any one of those three, never mind all three. |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 00:39 - Jul 23 with 6630 views | madmouse1959 |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 00:01 - Jul 23 by ITFC_Forever |
Shows how disillusioned fans were last season.
That hasn't been forgotten, and confidence from the fans is very fragile as a result.
We're at a decent striker, left-sided CB and maybe a winger shirt at the moment and I have zero confidence that we'll sign any one of those three, never mind all three. |
Personally, I,m not looking forward to this season. The chance to draft in some good players has been a real disappointment so far. If the insults start gathering momentum then it is going to be just like last season all over again. !!! No cup run and most games lost or dawn will mean even more long standing supporters will be lost. Sears, McGoldrick, Chambers, Bru, Skuse have all got to do a lot better after last years shambles. |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 05:07 - Jul 23 with 6533 views | Benters |
Not really,he should have gone after the Lincoln game. |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:03 - Jul 23 with 6441 views | No9 |
I did not go yesterday so I am in no psotition to comment on the game however it does not look good when MM played a team where some of the first team were out due to 'illness & injury' ? The season hasn't started yet & he has illness & injury problems?????? | | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:08 - Jul 23 with 6422 views | Benters |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:03 - Jul 23 by No9 |
I did not go yesterday so I am in no psotition to comment on the game however it does not look good when MM played a team where some of the first team were out due to 'illness & injury' ? The season hasn't started yet & he has illness & injury problems?????? |
I know someone who went,he says;
Great day out apart from the dross served up from town.
He goes on to say Flynn Downs looks good though. | |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:47 - Jul 23 with 6341 views | Mullet |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 00:01 - Jul 23 by ITFC_Forever |
Shows how disillusioned fans were last season.
That hasn't been forgotten, and confidence from the fans is very fragile as a result.
We're at a decent striker, left-sided CB and maybe a winger shirt at the moment and I have zero confidence that we'll sign any one of those three, never mind all three. |
Think that's the big issue, although I still don't know if that's more of a TWTD/social media thing given the space allows for these comments to ferment a bit. At games it was always a different feeling by and large, at least not as bitter.
It'll be a shame if the petty stuff is allowed to dominate this season, after the heights under MM it feels like the narrative hasn't helped things on field and they are obviously interwoven.
I'm a big fan of Smith and Berra lost it last season. Whether he just had his head elsewhere or his career caught up to him, I don't know. But with Tommy coming back, and Webster I'd hope we see two players who really step up, especially if Webster is to be the Prem prospect.
It's a winger/striker for me. One of each really. I think we'll sign at least one more player, the Prem squads etc. might mean it's into August, but I think we have enough capacity and chances to.
Bru is the weird one. I get we're down on CM's temporarily but has he said he'll stay and fight or refused to move on like Tabb did? |  |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:01 - Jul 23 with 6290 views | christiand |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:47 - Jul 23 by Mullet |
Think that's the big issue, although I still don't know if that's more of a TWTD/social media thing given the space allows for these comments to ferment a bit. At games it was always a different feeling by and large, at least not as bitter.
It'll be a shame if the petty stuff is allowed to dominate this season, after the heights under MM it feels like the narrative hasn't helped things on field and they are obviously interwoven.
I'm a big fan of Smith and Berra lost it last season. Whether he just had his head elsewhere or his career caught up to him, I don't know. But with Tommy coming back, and Webster I'd hope we see two players who really step up, especially if Webster is to be the Prem prospect.
It's a winger/striker for me. One of each really. I think we'll sign at least one more player, the Prem squads etc. might mean it's into August, but I think we have enough capacity and chances to.
Bru is the weird one. I get we're down on CM's temporarily but has he said he'll stay and fight or refused to move on like Tabb did? |
Yes, I agree Mullet. Out of the two, a proven striker is more a priority and it does mean spending money, proper money, not a £1m token effort. And there lies the problem. | |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:03 - Jul 23 with 6280 views | muccletonjoe |
2 choices - either get behind the team and make the best of what we have or spend the next 9 months bitching about mcCarthy- which ultimately bores everyone rigid after last season. |  | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:05 - Jul 23 with 6259 views | Bluebell |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:03 - Jul 23 by No9 |
I did not go yesterday so I am in no psotition to comment on the game however it does not look good when MM played a team where some of the first team were out due to 'illness & injury' ? The season hasn't started yet & he has illness & injury problems?????? |
I must admit I was saying that yesterday.
How many are injured or ill? How come Hyam and Bishop are still not available? There just seems a lot unable to play at the moment. |  | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:07 - Jul 23 with 6247 views | textbackup |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:47 - Jul 23 by Mullet |
Think that's the big issue, although I still don't know if that's more of a TWTD/social media thing given the space allows for these comments to ferment a bit. At games it was always a different feeling by and large, at least not as bitter.
It'll be a shame if the petty stuff is allowed to dominate this season, after the heights under MM it feels like the narrative hasn't helped things on field and they are obviously interwoven.
I'm a big fan of Smith and Berra lost it last season. Whether he just had his head elsewhere or his career caught up to him, I don't know. But with Tommy coming back, and Webster I'd hope we see two players who really step up, especially if Webster is to be the Prem prospect.
It's a winger/striker for me. One of each really. I think we'll sign at least one more player, the Prem squads etc. might mean it's into August, but I think we have enough capacity and chances to.
Bru is the weird one. I get we're down on CM's temporarily but has he said he'll stay and fight or refused to move on like Tabb did? |
The feeling at every home game wasn't a good one, you base an entire fans thoughts on the barmies sat up the back at Barnsley away [Post edited 23 Jul 2017 9:08]
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:11 - Jul 23 with 6234 views | PhilTWTD |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:03 - Jul 23 by No9 |
I did not go yesterday so I am in no psotition to comment on the game however it does not look good when MM played a team where some of the first team were out due to 'illness & injury' ? The season hasn't started yet & he has illness & injury problems?????? |
Not sure he can be blamed for that! While negativity after a pre-season friendly defeat is inevitable (and almost always overstated), I thought we were very good in the first half, albeit without scoring which we should have done, and with a couple of lapses towards the end of the half.
Thought the way we kept the ball for long spells was heartening. Downes impressed, as a lot of people have said, Celina is clearly a talent. Second half was a bit of a non-event, we'd started to get going again before the subs when it became a bit of a different game. |  | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:12 - Jul 23 with 6211 views | tractorboy1978 |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 08:47 - Jul 23 by Mullet |
Think that's the big issue, although I still don't know if that's more of a TWTD/social media thing given the space allows for these comments to ferment a bit. At games it was always a different feeling by and large, at least not as bitter.
It'll be a shame if the petty stuff is allowed to dominate this season, after the heights under MM it feels like the narrative hasn't helped things on field and they are obviously interwoven.
I'm a big fan of Smith and Berra lost it last season. Whether he just had his head elsewhere or his career caught up to him, I don't know. But with Tommy coming back, and Webster I'd hope we see two players who really step up, especially if Webster is to be the Prem prospect.
It's a winger/striker for me. One of each really. I think we'll sign at least one more player, the Prem squads etc. might mean it's into August, but I think we have enough capacity and chances to.
Bru is the weird one. I get we're down on CM's temporarily but has he said he'll stay and fight or refused to move on like Tabb did? |
My concern is that he doesn't know his best team or formation. He seemed to say we were looking at 4-4-2 at the start of pre season.
Defence, you've mentioned Smith there, and I would assume he'll start too as Mick likes a left sided centre half to provide balance. However, you would also say that Webster or Chambers won't be benched. So is that 3 at the back? He keeps talking about Iorfa is terms of CB as well.
Midfield, Skuse won't be dropped, Huws will play, instinctively I think we look better with a 3rd player (Adeyemi?) in there as well. But then Celina is going to play and he seems to really like Rowe as well which would suggest wingers playing.
Strikers, McGoldrick will play if fit and Garner isn't a lone target man type. We seem to be in the market for a Murphy type striker as well who can lead the line in that fashion.
In summary, I think we have a lot of good components but I'm not sure how it comes together at the moment, I just hope Mick does. | | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:13 - Jul 23 with 6206 views | PhilTWTD |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:05 - Jul 23 by Bluebell |
I must admit I was saying that yesterday.
How many are injured or ill? How come Hyam and Bishop are still not available? There just seems a lot unable to play at the moment. |
I think with Hyam they're taking things slowly. I don't think Bish's problem (groin) is too serious, same with Huws (calf/achilles). Adeyemi's on the mend and Skuse has just got the same bug he and Bart had last week. Dozzell has the hip problem he picked up at the Euros but is expected to play on Tuesday. | | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:13 - Jul 23 with 6203 views | Mullet |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:11 - Jul 23 by PhilTWTD |
Not sure he can be blamed for that! While negativity after a pre-season friendly defeat is inevitable (and almost always overstated), I thought we were very good in the first half, albeit without scoring which we should have done, and with a couple of lapses towards the end of the half.
Thought the way we kept the ball for long spells was heartening. Downes impressed, as a lot of people have said, Celina is clearly a talent. Second half was a bit of a non-event, we'd started to get going again before the subs when it became a bit of a different game. |
What's Downes like exactly? Does he have certain style or similarity to other players you can relate him to? | |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:19 - Jul 23 with 6176 views | PhilTWTD |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:12 - Jul 23 by tractorboy1978 |
My concern is that he doesn't know his best team or formation. He seemed to say we were looking at 4-4-2 at the start of pre season.
Defence, you've mentioned Smith there, and I would assume he'll start too as Mick likes a left sided centre half to provide balance. However, you would also say that Webster or Chambers won't be benched. So is that 3 at the back? He keeps talking about Iorfa is terms of CB as well.
Midfield, Skuse won't be dropped, Huws will play, instinctively I think we look better with a 3rd player (Adeyemi?) in there as well. But then Celina is going to play and he seems to really like Rowe as well which would suggest wingers playing.
Strikers, McGoldrick will play if fit and Garner isn't a lone target man type. We seem to be in the market for a Murphy type striker as well who can lead the line in that fashion.
In summary, I think we have a lot of good components but I'm not sure how it comes together at the moment, I just hope Mick does. |
I would guess starting with 4-4-2 in every game so far suggests that's what he views as the starting system. Personnel-wise I think we'll get more of an idea at Charlton, although with a few who probably won't be considered for the first game, Huws and Adeyemi most likely.
Interesting re Garner, I see him as the Murphy replacement, albeit not precisely the same, but playing that role. I would guess McGoldrick will be the other striker all things being equal.
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:19 - Jul 23 with 6169 views | Bluebell |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:12 - Jul 23 by tractorboy1978 |
My concern is that he doesn't know his best team or formation. He seemed to say we were looking at 4-4-2 at the start of pre season.
Defence, you've mentioned Smith there, and I would assume he'll start too as Mick likes a left sided centre half to provide balance. However, you would also say that Webster or Chambers won't be benched. So is that 3 at the back? He keeps talking about Iorfa is terms of CB as well.
Midfield, Skuse won't be dropped, Huws will play, instinctively I think we look better with a 3rd player (Adeyemi?) in there as well. But then Celina is going to play and he seems to really like Rowe as well which would suggest wingers playing.
Strikers, McGoldrick will play if fit and Garner isn't a lone target man type. We seem to be in the market for a Murphy type striker as well who can lead the line in that fashion.
In summary, I think we have a lot of good components but I'm not sure how it comes together at the moment, I just hope Mick does. |
"My concern is that he doesn't know his best team or formation. He seemed to say we were looking at 4-4-2 at the start of pre season."
Surely that is what pre-season is for? With several new players, he has to find out their best positions and which formation suits the whole team.
I never take any notice of pre-season and never go to the games. To my mind they are nothing games where all the players are given a chance to show their fitness and how they gel together.
The game on 5th August is the most important of the new season where we will see who Mick favours and what they can all do.
I can't wait! | | | |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:19 - Jul 23 with 6163 views | Mullet |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:01 - Jul 23 by christiand |
Yes, I agree Mullet. Out of the two, a proven striker is more a priority and it does mean spending money, proper money, not a £1m token effort. And there lies the problem. |
Fees don't really matter if it's the right striker. I'm not sure we'd find one for free now though, and we're likely forced into a loan again. It'd be nice to think we could spend a little and get a lot, maybe the DJ or Stewart type signings but most of MM's best signings have had to be frees on decent contracts.
Scunthorpe and teams of that ilk might be worth raiding. I know Walsall were the team the season before and none of those players really lit things up at this level, but they did ok. Enough to suggest it's about them moving here and fitting here more than anything else. | |
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| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:23 - Jul 23 with 6155 views | PhilTWTD |
| So it's taken one pre-season defeat.. on 09:13 - Jul 23 by Mullet |
What's Downes like exactly? Does he have certain style or similarity to other players you can relate him to? |
He likes a tackle, passes it around confidently and yesterday showed he wasn't afraid to bring the ball forward on occasion. As Mick said yesterday, an all-round central midfielder. Got outmuscled a couple of times but he's 18 and playing in one of his first senior games. | | | |
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