| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:42 - Jul 21 with 6075 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 21:43 - Jul 20 by Dolly2.0 |
This is an open forum. That's one of the joys of it. I like Callis and I don't feel like he preaches to me. I'm a meat eater that likes blood visible in his steaks, so Callis is never going to change me. I respect his views though. I respect his different musical tastes as well, even though a lot of it sounds like violin bows being dragged over metal railings to me.
What's a vac bed? i'm intrigued. |
What blood are you adding to your steak? |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:42 - Jul 21 with 6075 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 21:51 - Jul 20 by tcblue |
Fact of the day, that isn't blood in your steak |
Doh, beat me to it 😒 | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:53 - Jul 21 with 6063 views | No9 |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 13:56 - Jul 20 by sparks |
The answer is to eat seagulls and maybe pigeons. Free range. A real nuisance for many. And plentiful. And eating seagulls would help replenish fish stocks at sea. |
Aren't 'sea gulls' a protected species?
Pigeon is very good food, the breast in articular, the rest can be cooked and reduced to may a pasta sauce. The only problem is what farmers spray on their land these days which may get into the pigeon meat.
I was awoken this morning at 04.00 by the farmer across the way spaying his fields - why at 04.00 unless he has something to hide? |  | | |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:57 - Jul 21 with 6062 views | No9 |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 21:51 - Jul 20 by tcblue |
Fact of the day, that isn't blood in your steak |
Depends where the steak comes from | | | |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:57 - Jul 21 with 6062 views | MJallday |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 16:23 - Jul 20 by StirlingArcher |
Technically, you've seen gulls kill and eat pigeons.
"There are many gull species, all commonly referred to as sea gulls"
just a small irk of mine ;)
As for growing crops, are you pro or anti GM crops? |
I think they should GM crops like Velcro, to catch whatever is making the crop circles
Of course the UFO would needs the corresponding Velcro, so it's a bit of a long shot |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:58 - Jul 21 with 6061 views | MJallday |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:53 - Jul 21 by No9 |
Aren't 'sea gulls' a protected species?
Pigeon is very good food, the breast in articular, the rest can be cooked and reduced to may a pasta sauce. The only problem is what farmers spray on their land these days which may get into the pigeon meat.
I was awoken this morning at 04.00 by the farmer across the way spaying his fields - why at 04.00 unless he has something to hide? |
They are a massive nuisance. Gloucester has a particular issue with them for some reason | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 07:03 - Jul 21 with 6058 views | No9 |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:58 - Jul 21 by MJallday |
They are a massive nuisance. Gloucester has a particular issue with them for some reason |
Sea gulls or pigeons? | | | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 07:16 - Jul 21 with 6049 views | tcblue |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 06:57 - Jul 21 by No9 |
Depends where the steak comes from |
No, the red stuff is callis' tears | | | |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 07:24 - Jul 21 with 6040 views | No9 |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 07:16 - Jul 21 by tcblue |
No, the red stuff is callis' tears |
Sorry I thought you meant the steak hadn't been properly aged etc.
Silly me? | | | |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 08:21 - Jul 21 with 6012 views | gordon |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 13:56 - Jul 20 by sparks |
The answer is to eat seagulls and maybe pigeons. Free range. A real nuisance for many. And plentiful. And eating seagulls would help replenish fish stocks at sea. |
There's no such bird as a seagull. In the UK as breeding species we have Herring Gull, Lesser Black Backed Gull, Greater Black-backed Gull, Common Gull, Black-headed Gull, Mediterranean Gull, Kittiwake and Common Gull. Little Gull has also bred and is a possible future coloniser.
The UK holds significant parts of the world population of some of these species, and the data on breeding numbers is not very reliable, but most of them (apart from Med Gull which is colonising) are likely to have undergone declines over last 20 years.
Gull populations would have effectively zero impact on fish stocks.
If we want less herring gulls in urban areas, the solution is better waste disposal, less littering etc. |  | | |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 08:30 - Jul 21 with 6002 views | MJallday |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 08:21 - Jul 21 by gordon |
There's no such bird as a seagull. In the UK as breeding species we have Herring Gull, Lesser Black Backed Gull, Greater Black-backed Gull, Common Gull, Black-headed Gull, Mediterranean Gull, Kittiwake and Common Gull. Little Gull has also bred and is a possible future coloniser.
The UK holds significant parts of the world population of some of these species, and the data on breeding numbers is not very reliable, but most of them (apart from Med Gull which is colonising) are likely to have undergone declines over last 20 years.
Gull populations would have effectively zero impact on fish stocks.
If we want less herring gulls in urban areas, the solution is better waste disposal, less littering etc. |
or anti aircraft missiles. | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 08:33 - Jul 21 with 5994 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 22:15 - Jul 20 by Dolly2.0 |
I've met him several times in real life and he's always convivial. So I think he does.
Being passionate about what you believe in doesn't equate to lack of respect for people who don't believe in the same thing.
I hope you know that although we disagree on some things (and you lied about me, which I tried hard to get you to admit to but to your credit you avoided like a true politician) I respect your views.
It may not always come across but I respect the views of everyone on here.
Well, not Benters, obvs. |
He stated on here he doesn't respect views on eating meat. |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:08 - Jul 21 with 5983 views | monytowbray |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 21:30 - Jul 20 by Lord_Lucan |
What you choose to do in life is a personal thing. Have you ever considered keeping your opinions to yourself? Serious question.
I don't bombard you about the merits of vac beds do I. |
You could apply that to so many discussions on here though.
I don't see what I've done wrong here. |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:11 - Jul 21 with 5979 views | monytowbray |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 08:33 - Jul 21 by GlasgowBlue |
He stated on here he doesn't respect views on eating meat. |
As we've gone over before though, why should I? | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:15 - Jul 21 with 5967 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:11 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
As we've gone over before though, why should I? |
I respect your view. |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:23 - Jul 21 with 5965 views | StokieBlue |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:11 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
As we've gone over before though, why should I? |
I think this is the issue people are having..
People respect your decision and in a tolerant society you should respect theirs regardless on your personal beliefs.
There are countless things that people do that I disagree with but it's their choice and I respect that. It's sad you don't feel you can do the same.
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:27 - Jul 21 with 5957 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:11 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
As we've gone over before though, why should I? |
I'm simply pointing out your position to Dolly. | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:33 - Jul 21 with 5948 views | monytowbray |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:27 - Jul 21 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm simply pointing out your position to Dolly. |
It's a view I can't support as it involves ignoring suffering to living things.
That doesn't mean I'm going to beat him up, bully him or knock a burger out of his hand. | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:33 - Jul 21 with 5946 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:33 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
It's a view I can't support as it involves ignoring suffering to living things.
That doesn't mean I'm going to beat him up, bully him or knock a burger out of his hand. |
I said you don't respect his view. No more no less. | |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 11:36 - Jul 21 with 5910 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:33 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
It's a view I can't support as it involves ignoring suffering to living things.
That doesn't mean I'm going to beat him up, bully him or knock a burger out of his hand. |
You'd have to get a step ladder if you want to knock a burger out of my hand  |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 11:43 - Jul 21 with 5890 views | giant_stow |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:11 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
As we've gone over before though, why should I? |
Respect is two way innit blud - if you want respect for your views (and maybe you don't), then you at least need to show some degree of tolerance of others'. |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 11:46 - Jul 21 with 5880 views | J2BLUE |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:33 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
It's a view I can't support as it involves ignoring suffering to living things.
That doesn't mean I'm going to beat him up, bully him or knock a burger out of his hand. |
If you want a really nice vegan snack packed with protein try Food Doctor roasted mixed beans. They are great.
One of my diet staples at the moment. |  |
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 12:17 - Jul 21 with 5853 views | Ryorry |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 09:33 - Jul 21 by monytowbray |
It's a view I can't support as it involves ignoring suffering to living things.
That doesn't mean I'm going to beat him up, bully him or knock a burger out of his hand. |
I appreciate this thread is on intensive/factory farming, and I fully support you in your anti-views on that.
However, in past threads, you've failed to recognise, let alone appreciate, that many meat eaters are carefully selective in their buying, and will only choose from ethical sources such as wild, free-range or organically produced meat, which does not incorporate "suffering to living things"
Personally, I only eat meat a couple of times a week these days anyway. [Post edited 21 Jul 2017 12:19]
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| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 14:32 - Jul 21 with 5804 views | J2BLUE |
| Intensive farming in Britain - The problem is growing on 12:17 - Jul 21 by Ryorry |
I appreciate this thread is on intensive/factory farming, and I fully support you in your anti-views on that.
However, in past threads, you've failed to recognise, let alone appreciate, that many meat eaters are carefully selective in their buying, and will only choose from ethical sources such as wild, free-range or organically produced meat, which does not incorporate "suffering to living things"
Personally, I only eat meat a couple of times a week these days anyway. [Post edited 21 Jul 2017 12:19]
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Not only that but Brunswick actually claimed that free range etc were marketing labels designed to ease the guilt of meat eaters and didn't actually mean anything. Tell those chickens in the newspaper story Callis linked to yesterday that free range is meaningless! | |
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