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[Blog] Finger Pointing In The Ruins
Written by tractorboykent on Monday, 16th May 2011 16:07

When Simon Clegg announced Roy Keane as the new Ipswich manager at the end of April 2009, he described the ex-Sunderland man as a ‘winner’.

The appointment was seen by some as a coup (in the words of the Mail’s Des Kelly "a wonderful" one at that and "a tremendous statement of intent by the new regime at Portman Road") but by others as scant justification for the disgracefully merciless way in which Jim Magilton was removed to make way – allegedly by phone to him as he was at the bedside of his sick mum.

Clegg, as the public face of money man Marcus Evans, delivered the news and will therefore be most associated with the decision and the outcome. Two years later, with Keane’s disastrous reign hopefully becoming an increasingly distant memory, the focus of fans’ disgruntlement has shifted towards Clegg.

Keane’s combustible temperament was seen as a necessary (chemical) element of the toughening up of a side that had, under Magilton, fallen short of the top six position considered a minimum achievement. There was talk of a soft underbelly and the suggestion that Keane was the man to fix it.

But why? No one denied that he had aggression both on the pitch and as a manager but surely much more than that was needed. Magilton had never lacked aggression or passion – he had led from the front at Portman Road on and off the pitch.

What’s more Magilton’s passion was controlled; for many, Keane’s disgraceful infamous ‘tackle’ on Alf Inge Haaland should have been his last act on a football pitch and his petulant desertion of his country in the World Cup should similarly have been seen as his defining moment. But money men – and some fans – can forgive anything if they smell the promise of success.

And there was promise - even expectation. Several commentators suggested that the two-year contract offered meant one year to get to the Premiership and one to ensure that we stay there – simple as that. Certainly Man U fans who I knew almost took it for granted that promotion was around the corner. The national press described Keane’s appointment as part of Evans’s ‘big money project’ – the Irishman being seen as the man around whom the club would be built as it had at Sunderland.

Putting Keane at the centre of the club – as seemed to be demanded by a combination of his ego and the club’s sycophancy - meant very much more than the appointment of a new manager. Talk abounded of the end of Town’s ‘genteel’ and ‘Corinthian’ past as if the likes of Terry Butcher, Kevin Beattie or Jason De Vos had been members of powder puff sides that never achieved anything aside from the odd FA Cup, UEFA Cup and promotion to the Premier League. Keane was to be the future.

No one denied that Magilton lost his job because of a mid-table finish - well short of the play-offs – that was seen as unacceptable after £12m investment in players. Two years later and another mid-table finish (achieved largely because of Paul Jewell’s efforts to pull the club away from the relegation zone close to where Keane had left it) neatly sums up both the big money project and the delivery of a ‘winner’

So what went wrong? For all of the discussion and dissection of football management, for most of us the attributes of an effective proponent are actually quite straightforward –

• Buying – the ability to spot players of ability and temperament who will fit into a team plan. And at the right price. Keane’s record here has been largely woeful. Ask most fans and they will say that Leadbitter is the closest to a success in this regard but his performances have been far from consistent. The laughable policy of seemingly buying only Irishmen who once played for Sunderland narrowed the prospect pool and hardly displayed much imagination or, importantly, the ability to see potential from the lower leagues (a policy that has proven admirably successful at that club up the road).

• Selling – The departures of Jordan Rhodes and Jon Walters sparked the widest response and seem the most instructive. It now looks clear that Rhodes didn't want to go but that was instead pushed by Keane/Clegg in response to the size of Huddersfield’s offer; whatever the circumstances, his success at his new club has been beyond debate. The response to Walters’ departure was, I think, one of the best indications of the Keane effect. The manager’s personal vilification of Walters seemed to be adopted by many fans – a mystery given the general popularity of the ex-Chester man until then; this was continued when Walters, post-departure, chose to give his side of the story via a number of plausible anecdotes suggesting pretty unhinged behaviour by Keane. Once again, putting opinion aside, Walters’s subsequent success at Stoke – cup finalists and established Premier Leaguers – should put any debate about his ability to rest as should his commitment to the cause whenever he wore a Town shirt.

• Selecting – the standing joke amongst the press was that that they didn’t take bets on the team line-up right up to kick-off because how were they expected to know if Keane didn’t? The laughter seems somewhat hollow now as does the underlying truth. For a man who had such strong opinions on the players that he had and the ones that he sought, his failure to create a ‘best team’ from them spoke volumes.

• Organisation – if it was problematic to have no clue as to his best XI, then it hardly helped that he was equally unclear as to their best formation. Those hostile to Magilton had ranted that his teams’ style of play had been leaden and long ball dependant – a charge that looked difficult to justify to many of us. And yet time and time again this charge could certainly be applied to Keane whose teams relied on long balls to centre forwards who barely ever made anything of them. Extraordinarily, the manager seemed to refuse to see this, to acknowledge a Plan B and to make substitutions that ever did more than exacerbate the problem. It was as if all of his long experience as a player had been reduced to a myopia fuelled by a belief that his was the only view that would abide.

• Motivation – Even if the above four attributes are in place what remains – and what is the gold dust of management – is the ability to mould people into a spirit that wins. Man management at its purest. The fatal and final weakness of Keane was clearly here – a catastrophic final nail in the coffin.

Even on the day of his arrival there were rumours of texts between Ipswich and Sunderland (‘Roy’s coming – get me out of here!’) and now that the dust is settling the stories become rather more unsettling as players report of Keane never speaking to them direct but rather via other staff members. This rings true when compared to similar stories from his last days at Sunderland (at the time of the Town appointment, Mick Dennis in the Express reported on Keane’s "infrequent appearances at training" and the Telegraph’s Henry Winter rightly pointed out that Sunderland players, like most, accepted the "Mr Angry School of Management for only so long").

On the pitch the evidence of this was never clearer that the home game against Newcastle – an occasion dedicated to the memory of Sir Bobby and as such teed up for a classic and passionate affair but one that ultimately ended up in an embarrassing 0-4 capitulation in which the shambolic organisation of the side was critically underpinned by their appearance as a bunch of strangers lacking any passion.

It is of course the combination of failures across the areas that did for Keane. A weakness in one or two may have been handled but cluelessness in all could not. How will we know if Tamas Priskin could have been the answer to our goalscoring problems when he was barely ever given a run of more than two or three games and then often playing alongside strangers in a shape that provided questionable logic and service? What Ian MacParland and the players achieved on one night against Arsenal hinted at something but delivered frustration amongst the euphoria.

Ultimately for me the saddest and most destructive legacy of the Keane reign is its divisiveness amongst fans. From the moment that the rumours gained momentum in April 09 that Keane was to be the new manager, a ‘for and against’ mood took hold. I was unashamedly against – watching Sky Sports News the night before the announcement was like the unfolding of some sort of nightmare because I just couldn't believe that we would hand over the keys to our cherished club to a man who was possibly as inappropriate a guardian of it as I could imagine.

On the other side, Keane’s proponents saw him as the means of raising our profile ("we’ll be on the back pages and on Sky Sports every day") which I suppose is some sort of argument but only if we want our club to be run along the lines of Big Brother.

This division into pro and con took hold. However, as much as I hated the fact that Keane was there I – like all the doubters – obviously wanted him to succeed. I wanted the club to succeed. In the vitriolic final days of Magilton we’d all seen posts on TWTD wishing the side to lose so that the board would have to sack Jim – such bizarre and addled logic was never vented by Keane’s detractors as far as I saw. What did happen though was a suggestion that non Keane supporters should shut up or defect to another club.

At the City Ground as we slid to a shambolic 0-3 defeat, I screamed in frustration as Keane substituted Wickham, who had been our only viable threat to the Forest defence. I was met with a volley of ‘Kean-o’ chants as if the evidence of our own eyes was to be set aside in favour of faith in an unseen plan that we were to believe existed in Keane’s head.

Maybe it was Keane’s own near demonic belief in his own word that fostered unthinking adulation in some. Maybe it was the press’s feeding of it. Even at the conference to unveil him, the press fed him a question on which he bit and gave them the chance to prove his rent-a-quote reputation by pointing out that his track record of winning trophies was no worse than that of his contemporaries. Whether or not he intended to take a pop at his ex-colleagues (particularly Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce), it was certainly painted that way as an early indication of his coming out fighting.

It was unnecessary and, whilst it may not have actually been an example of the childish digs that were expected of him, it set the agenda and provided great headlines for journos prodding at the wasps' nest.

Keane’s detractors were many. At the time of his appointment there was no shortage of commentators ready to conjecture how long it would last and if the end would come in a fit of pique instigated by the man rather than marching orders from the club.

Amongst those voicing scepticism at the Clegg/Evans Masterplan were Tony Cascarino, Andy Townsend (who described Keane’s character as one that "seems to breed confrontation"), Piers Morgan (whose description of Keane as a "serial whinger with a self-destruct button primed and ready" seemed uncharacteristically on the money) and the Telegraph’s Jim White (who felt that a man who "does not do human contact" might not have a long-term future in football management). Hindsight is a wonderful thing but not as wonderful as foresight - shame it wasn't more widely shared.

And now, finally, after several months of silence Keane has commented on his experience at – and exit from - our club. Should any of us be surprised at the inference that it wasn’t his fault? In an approach that I imagine was intended to hint at dignity – but actually screams petulance – he refuses to talk in detail but does point out that he will never take another job without first meeting the chief exec.

The suggestion rings out loud and clear that Clegg was the problem. Just like at Sunderland where he named Ellis Short as the culprit guilty of breaking his ‘condition’ of taking the job that ("there would be no interference with team affairs").

Odd this. Clegg himself made no equivalent complaints and has in fact been steadfast in his support of Keane’s efforts; maybe he’s regretting that now that the sights seem to be have been turned on him. We of course have no idea of what Keane is hinting at (player bids that Clegg/Evans blocked?, contract offers on which the manager was overruled?) but we do know that Keane spent hugely substantial sums from a more generous budget than has ever been available to an Ipswich manager. We also know the results.

Were Keane ever to listen to anyone else of course, Cascarino’s words at the time of his Sunderland walk out must seem all the more galling. "I’d be amazed if he got another job in football,"the ex-Ireland striker commented. 18 months after just that happening, and another ignominious departure behind him, it would be hard to take issue with that. Fortunately for Town fans it’s not our problem.

When Keane arrived he acknowledged the heritage of ITFC – in his words "a proper club". As we now survey the wreckage of his reign we can only hope that Messrs Jewell and Hutchings can put it right.

At the same time we must heal the division between supporters and get back to being one solid group. Most of all, we must try to regain something of the spirit of this properly special club – something that Keane simply never got; time will tell whether or not Clegg and Evans do.




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GreenwichBlue added 18:08 - May 16
Move on. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and raking this over is hardly going to "heal the division" you refer to.

For the record I wasn't particularly for or against Keane's appointment. While he was manager I supported him as I would any manager of our club. Now he's not.
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Reus30 added 18:13 - May 16
We had the circus following Keane's every move and at the start its something positive. But now hindsight does seem a wonderful thing. We are making steps to recover from all this mess, (even under Jim) and looking upwards. Like the blog though, was a good read
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Guthrum added 18:30 - May 16
I would like to take issue with your comment that: "Keane’s proponents saw him as the means of raising our profile" as the only possible arguement in favour of supporting him. It's certainly not why I did for so long, in fact that was one aspect I found rather distasteful.

His pedigree was actually quite respectable when he arrived at Ipswich. Sunderland had been promoted to the Prem at the end of his first season as Manager. The problems leading to his departure had all come after that. He had been a very successful player and club captain. Yes, personality-wise one could not help thinking Keane and Ipswich were a bit of an odd match, but would that matter?

His first two games - both wins - seemed to provide confirmation of this promise.

The first full season started badly, with that seemingly endless string of draws, then picked up a bit towards the end. Maybe he was now getting into his stride with the club. That seemed to be the correct conclusion during the first month or so of this season, when it seemed Town was flying high.

Then the wheels came off.

As things got worse, the fans became more divided and bitter, with much slinging of insults on both sides ("Keane supporters are idiots", "Keane haters are not True Fans" etc., etc., back and forth). But slowly, as it became clearer that Keane did not have the ability to turn things round, his backers became fewer and fewer. I changed sides around the beginning of December, not because of the Norwich game, but because it came at the end of a long run of failure.

And we must acknowlege that the Keane detractors were right. He did fail at Ipswich Town.

But while (almost) everyone now agrees that Roy Keane was a disaster for our club, it would be disingenuous to claim that his supporters never had any justification for their position.

And rather than continuing to point fingers, would it not be more productive to bury hatchets and look forward together to a better future under Paul Jewell?

COYB!
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das_bones added 19:14 - May 16
Good blog and some very valid points but dont we all think its time to move on, forget Keane and get right behind(not literally!!) Mr Jewell
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carsey added 19:30 - May 16
I wasn't particularly happy with the appointment when it happened but as an admirer of Keane in his playing days I wished him well. Having said that it's history now and as said elsewhere the blog was a good read but I say lets forget it now and move on.
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tractorboykent added 20:59 - May 16
Agreed that we should move on. The post was really a response to Keane's first comments made the other day and the fact that they coincided with widespread disgruntlement over the contracts - aimed laregly at Clegg. I felt it might be worth saying in the context of drawing a line. It's probably (a little too rabidly!) clear that I'm happy to see the back of the Keane era. Yep - here's to the future.
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Argyle_blue added 22:03 - May 16
I think the biggest thing for me was that both Magilton and Keane were great leaders but poor managers. Jewell on the other hand is a manager. I think good things are ahead...
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Darth_Koont added 07:04 - May 17
"(From day one) I was unashamedly against Keane"

You don't say?! Keane had to go (and the Clegg stuff now isn't welcome) but this sort of prejudiced opinion dressed as fact doesn't exactly help anyone move on.
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Superfrans added 08:53 - May 17
A few points I agree with, but lots of assumptions too. And there really is no point in invoking the views of Mick Dennis, possibly the most partial of all NCFC fans in the media.
Overall though, it's ancient history. Keane has gone, PJ is rebuilding, it won't happen overnight. Anyone who thinks it will is deluding themselves.
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Sospiri added 09:31 - May 17
Good post, well done.
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Tractorboy24 added 10:38 - May 17
Agree, also think you look upon Magiltons tenure in a bit too much light, at the time there was very few that wanted him kept on, it was only the mannor of his sacking that got people's backs up. I agree with most of what Guthrum said, alsthough I think my patience had wore thin earlier during that shamefull poor run that was only ended by a game that should have been postponed!

Still onwards, looking forward to next year, and hope PJ can unite the fans and bring the good times back!
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Lightningboy added 11:20 - May 17
Keane was the worst thing that ever happened to our club - boring football & to be quite honest a boring "up-himself" manager..I think we've apparently got too many "I follow manchester utd aswell as ipswich fans " at our club ,which is why Keane had so much baffling support..thankfully he's gone and we've been able to get back to "normal" reasonably quickly.

As for Magilton - i'll defend him til the day I die..he did a decent job considering it was his very first - until the money started coming in as did a hotch-potch of average players..that's when expectations started becoming too high,too soon..everyone expected him to have us promoted within 1 season because of Marcus's millions..doesn't always work that easily folks.

Let's hope Jewell is given a reasonable amount of time..he's a likeable guy and he has the right attitude..so long as there's progress over the coming few seasons, good attacking football ,the kids getting their chance & we're in the play-offs or there abouts then i'll be happy.

CAN WE NOW PLEASE DRAW A BIG LINE UNDER ROY KEANE.
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fifeblue added 12:49 - May 17
Roy who?
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TractorRoyNo1 added 12:59 - May 17
you silly kent, it's time to move on
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Daleyitfc added 17:20 - May 17
Best blog I've read on here. As to the comments of 'move on ' ... it is important that everyone, especially the ignorant majority who supported Keane, learns from their mistakes. Or they will be doomed to repeat them. As the saying (almost) goes ...
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tractorboykent added 18:28 - May 17
Blogs are great aren't they? You say your piece and everyone says theirs. Darth Koont - I don't think that I 'dressed up prejudiced opinion as fact'; I have a position and took it alongside quoting other people's inc journo's. TractorRoyNo1 - your allegiance looks as clear as mine and brilliantly argued.

We all agree we're moving on. This was just a look over the shoulder on the way
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sonian_blue added 10:09 - May 18
As part of the 'ignorant majority' who supported our manager (it was Keane during the period you refer to Daley) I will try to learn from my mistakes..Oh I havent, Im still supporting the manager.
Never mind maybe I will learn 1 day to be a supporter of your standing.
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callmeted added 12:53 - May 18
daleyitfc - I ,like many, had no allegiance either way when Keane was appointed but wanted the best from him for ITFC. I agree with many points in the well balanced blog and there are lessons to be learnt by all parties.

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing but your unbelieavably arrogant comment of 'the ignorant majority' probably sums you up. And before you say it yeah yeah yeah I imagine you told everyone so at the time!!
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alfromcol added 16:59 - May 18
A good read and considerable effort put into composing it.

However, why bother to post it and then say at the end: ""At the same time we must heal the division between supporters and get back to being one solid group.""

Your posting has merely reminded a few to start posting for and against posts. The king is dead long live the king. (I am not suggesting that Keane was the king)

Move on.


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patrickswell added 21:57 - May 18
Daleyitfc said "Best blog I've read on here. As to the comments of 'move on ' ... it is important that everyone, especially the ignorant majority who supported Keane, learns from their mistakes. Or they will be doomed to repeat them. As the saying (almost) goes ..."

You make us sound like a bunch of holocaust deniers!
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thebooks added 12:27 - May 19
Thought this was a really good read, but didn't agree with it all (a bit easy on JM, I think). Odd that we're supposed to “move on” after several (very well written) paragraphs that rake over Keane's obvious managerial failings *and* his personality.

Football fans rallying around a manager at matches is hardly a controversial thing.

Totally agree with your point about our rose tinted view of a Corinthian past.

Every manager in the internet age is divisive. You should have seen what it was like on here when Joe Royle was manager (which seems plain bizarre now, considering the job he did). If you don't like it stay away from message boards.
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Doctor_Albran added 12:46 - May 19
Fair play for writing the blog and well written, however, as commented above, your own opinion is clearly biased, as it was from the start "as the nightmare appointment unfolded" and the use of such footballing luminaries as Townsend (ex-budgie) and Piers Morgan(?!?!).

Some were for Keane because of his history, others against for the same reason or like me supported him as he was Ipswich manager and had the same goals as me, success for Ipswich - unfortunately he was not able to do this and he has rightly gone and Paul Jewell will hopefully achieve what Keane could not.

However, whilst many faults lay at keanes feet the continual use of rumour and conjecture serves no purpose than to continue a debate most of us would prefer to draw a line under.

Regarding Clegg (who is relevant as he is still here), there has clearly been an issue with contract negotiations - as highlighted by both Keane and Jewell and the failure to secure any of the managements 1st choices over the past few seasons certainly suggests that issues exist, however, no hard and fast evidence seems to exist at present, so until Evans ditches Clegg or Jewell quits/is sacked due to failed promises or failure to deliver we go on as ever before supporting the Town.

Finally, can we get over the Rhodes thing... he left, whether pushed "Keane wanted rid" or left "he said he didn't want to play for the club again".
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StavangerBlue added 14:06 - May 20
JM, RK are gone, move on, don't look back in anger, roll with it, PJ is now the ring master.
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h32 added 23:32 - May 20
Good blog - not just a few opinions but much truth too.

We wait and see if what is at the Club now - is capable of moving it on.
Many are still positive - but there are glaring indications that the building blocks are not falling into place, and only time will tell if they indeed do so.
I am not one that's convinced that the good times are about to return - although of course I hope I'm wrong. I guess I am not alone in truth.
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fourth added 17:08 - May 21
Daleytfc is on the money.
We need to KNOW the nature of the Keane management not just not to repeat it, but to appreciate new managements' positive approach.
Keane, was in my view in competition with his own players ("so you think you are as good as I was?") and was as a result fundamentally negative and unsupportive. Huge psychological problems that restricted his vision to "obedience", "do what I say" (or it will be the worst for you) reflects his own upbringing. Of course we've seen something a LITTLE bit similar work for Brian Clough "young man". But fundamentally Keane is a deeply flawed personality.
We need to take this on board in selecting managers and I would hope at this very minute young Mr Clegg and the Manager are sitting down with two sets of reports on the table so that each can discuss with the other their problem areas (we all have them) so that they move TOWARDS success and AWAY from failure.
Very useful article
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